More WorldCon and Hugo Links

We’re still talking about WorldCon and the Hugos, so here are some more links:

At The Daily Dot, Gavia Baker-Whitelaw compares WorldCon with Nine Worlds, a newer multi-fandom con also held in London, and detects a notable generation gap.

Bethan Jones also describes a notable generation gap as well as a gap between media and book fandom in her LonCon3 write-up. She also talks about attending a very good panel on diversity and internationalism.

Bertha Chin also tackles the diversity issue in this great post, wherein she describes repeatedly having to turn down participating in a diversity panel she didn’t feel qualified for and how she felt she was mainly assigned that panel because of her Asian surname.

Ana S. offers an extensive con and panel report at Things Mean a Lot.

At Staffer’s Book Review, Justin Landon analyses Hugo voting behaviour in detail as well as the influence of the Sad Puppies (who seem to be a bloc of sixty to seventy nominators/voters). Some interesting stuff there, though he can’t resist a jab against Seanan McGuire.

The big takeaway from Justin Landon’s post, however, is how important it is to nominate for the Hugos (and every LonCon member can nominate next year) to prevent future Sad Puppies and other rabid fans. Indeed, I already have a document where I list anything genre related that catches my eye as a potential nominee under the respective category, so I don’t have to strain my memory next year at nomination time.

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7 Responses to More WorldCon and Hugo Links

  1. Chris Gerrib says:

    I really think I was at a different Worldcon then the author of that first link.

    • Cora says:

      I was kind of surprised, too, since so far every report about LonCon3 was largely positive with very few people reporting scattered negative experiences. On the other hand, the author is a young female fan, so she might well have gotten fake geek girl reactions, which would have marred her con experience.

      • Mark says:

        I think the basic concern that WorldCon doesn’t attract a newer generation is a valid concern, however, I don’t get the point of that report: so Nine World was her thing, WorldCon wasn’t. Perfect, she found her thing. Different conventions do not have to appeal to exactly the same people. All this talk about diversity, and what people really look for is sameness everywhere.

        I’m 40, so I’m probably also considered be part of the older generation. I have never been to a convention (and the fear that everybody around me there would be of the same age, gender etc. is one of the reasons), but the closest I ever got to a convention feeling was a literary event in New York earlier this year in tribute of Robert Sheckley. Michael Swanwick and Ellen Datlow were present and Jim Freund hosted that evening, there was a lot of geekery about Sheckley’s work and SF history in general, and I just loved it. I don’t see the difference between geeking around on historical SF and geeking around on a specific newer, media-related things. There is demand for it, so there needs to be room for it.

        • Cora says:

          I suspect she merely had a bad experience at WorldCon or at least not so great experience compared to Nine Worlds. Or maybe she simply expected WorldCon to be this huge über-convention, the convention to end all conventions, and it wasn’t. Plus, there apparently are long time book fans who look down on newer media fans, no matter how silly it is.

          That Sheckley event sounds great. Though I also suspect it might not appeal that much to a twentysomething media fan who may never have heard of Sheckley (though that would be a pity).

  2. This post is a good counterpoint to the Daily Dot article, especially for this part:

    I think the article was trying to make a point about the difference between the classic SFF establishment and the diversity-oriented, for-inclusivity trend that the fandom and business has been swinging towards in recent years. Unfortunately, it chose to do so by making a ham-fisted division between Older People and Younger People, which is not just reductive, but also kinda shitty. There have been queer and minority folks in SFF fandom for decades, agitating for change, and reducing classic fandom to “full of old white men” pretty much erases them.

    • Cora says:

      Thanks. Someone already sent me that link and I was planning to include it in a follow-up post, but didn’t get around to it yet.

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